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MSNBC
Nov 25, 2012 12:00pm PST
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MSNBC
Nov 24, 2012 5:00am PST
the insurance industry had become about the need to contain costs, about the fact that medicare does a good job controlling costs and covers people. now, i got a lot of flak from both sides, i mean, this is -- and i don't consider that a sign of virtue. if both sides attack you, you must be in the right place. i understood why that was. but i think the really sort of critical period in the debate occurred in deciding what the initial approach would be. >> that's interesting. >> and then, of course, during that period that ran roughly from late 2009 into 2010 when we went through four near-death experiences with the bill. >> that made me think also about -- let me just also say for the record, the 13th amendment is a much, much, much bigger deal in the affordable care act. lest anyone think i'm equating the two. much bigger two. >> yeah, absolutely ending slavery is a much bigger deal than anything, but the affordable care act is immensely significant. i think the difficulty here is to, you know -- and i think this is the difficulty. it's for progressive people. how do we develop a wa
MSNBC
Nov 24, 2012 1:00pm PST
is the mostco tire hñuealth caructure. if me pto look f>> an ad t e) at projecti in medicare hat a fund a >> c t ining is the singl the conservative opponents ofaca conservative skeptics have critiques about cost control. you see these sort ofservatives going to materialize, and single payer people say no, single payer is the only way to get the kind of cost control you want. i'm curious, whether you think we're going to see the cost being projected. >> well i'm very skeptical that the aca cost controls are going to be effective. you know we could save $500 million if we just did allow us to cover everyone including the people we're leaving out. the cost control that we're -- the infrastructure isn't in place with the aca. >> you're saying on the delivery side? >> on the delivery side. >> and don, this is what you have worked on right? this is what you have done your life's work on. but also at cms is making sure the infrastructure is developed tls that are being projected? >> yeah, that's right. there is no question that a simplified system of payment would save money right off th
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